Trollbeads Fall Release 2011 details

naranja wrote:

Caroline wrote:

Naranja wrote:Dealers buy these at the same price as any other trollbead, it's the dealers that charge higher prices for more desirable OOAKs (because they know their customers will pay these prices). No one knows in advance whether any of the OOAKs or any of the styles seen in OOAKs will be brought into the production line, but it is the customer who decides what he/she is willing to pay for a bead. (I hope this came out right, I'm really tired and don't feel I got my point across...)

Actually, for Trollbeads dealers, Unique Trollbeads (OOAKs) are priced higher than regular production beads. Also, we must purchase them in kits of 6. Usually, they are shipped to us sight unseen, so the potential resale value is variable. We can not return them if we don't like them.

At least that is true in the US.

Thanks for clarifying Caroline, I didn't know they are actually priced higher in the US! I understand the downside of not being able to see them beforehand and having to buy them in sets. You cannot return at all? Not even if a set stays intact?

That's right, Uniques are not returnable at all. Most of the time, half of them are of quality and the other half are so-so. That's why the prices vary from retailer to retailer - you have to adjust the pricing to contend with the beads that may not sell.

Daisylove wrote:
I have never been good in puzzles, but I don't see any differences between the new and the old lock

What is the difference???

One extra petal

Caroline wrote:

naranja wrote:

Caroline wrote:

Naranja wrote:Dealers buy these at the same price as any other trollbead, it's the dealers that charge higher prices for more desirable OOAKs (because they know their customers will pay these prices). No one knows in advance whether any of the OOAKs or any of the styles seen in OOAKs will be brought into the production line, but it is the customer who decides what he/she is willing to pay for a bead. (I hope this came out right, I'm really tired and don't feel I got my point across...)

Actually, for Trollbeads dealers, Unique Trollbeads (OOAKs) are priced higher than regular production beads. Also, we must purchase them in kits of 6. Usually, they are shipped to us sight unseen, so the potential resale value is variable. We can not return them if we don't like them.

At least that is true in the US.

Thanks for clarifying Caroline, I didn't know they are actually priced higher in the US! I understand the downside of not being able to see them beforehand and having to buy them in sets. You cannot return at all? Not even if a set stays intact?

That's right, Uniques are not returnable at all. Most of the time, half of them are of quality and the other half are so-so. That's why the prices vary from retailer to retailer - you have to adjust the pricing to contend with the beads that may not sell.

I know this is common practice here in NL as well. Jewelers place an order and will have to wait and see what they're getting. Only faulty items can be returned. Though a cherub whose nose has been polished away is not considered to be a faulty item...
The last resort for a LD here is to sell less attractive glass at 'discounted' prices though that doesn't seem to be allowed (at first). I can't blame my LDs not to take in OOAKs anymore at these conditions. Fortunately my LDs don't charge more for the attractive glass beads than recommended retail price.

In the States, this was called buying "a Pig in a poke." A poke is a regional word for bag or sack and it meant that you were buying something you couldn't see.

I have also understood, that building a lock is very difficult, and all the Trollbeads locks are based on the same system, (which you can not see with the eye as it is inside mechanism), and from there on, they 'built' the design, and not every design is suitable for this system..

Interesting point, and I can see how that would limit the designs they can use, but don't tell me they couldn't have stuck a spiral instead of a flower on the outside !

Pond wrote:In the States, this was called buying "a Pig in a poke." A poke is a regional word for bag or sack and it meant that you were buying something you couldn't see.

That's what "pig in a poke" means?

maelstrom wrote:

I had thought about getting the redbalifrog dragon lock but someone on another forum advised me she has had to return it as it is very difficult to fasten so still looking for another lock

I have two of the RBF Dragon Locks and while it isn't the easiest lock to fasten, once you get the hang of it, it's no problem at all.

Fuzzyfeet wrote:

I have also understood, that building a lock is very difficult, and all the Trollbeads locks are based on the same system, (which you can not see with the eye as it is inside mechanism), and from there on, they 'built' the design, and not every design is suitable for this system..

Interesting point, and I can see how that would limit the designs they can use, but don't tell me they couldn't have stuck a spiral instead of a flower on the outside !

I guess not, but apparently it caused some trouble.

@LLou, I completely overlooked the extra petal LOL

I have the current 2 tone lock, mainly because I wanted a 2 tone one, not because I thought this was the pretties lock that I had ever seen...
I tend to think the gold bit is a Bow...to me it just don't look like a flower

LoopyLou wrote:New gold/silver flower lock
(I hope they didn't burn too much midnight oil coming up with the idea for this one!)

you're funny

maelstrom wrote:I was hoping for some more realistic wildlife/animal beads in this release especially otter, badger and meercat. I loved the otter bead design someone submitted in the competition.

I had thought about getting the redbalifrog dragon lock but someone on another forum advised me she has had to return it as it is very difficult to fasten so still looking for another lock

that otter was incredible.

maelstrom wrote:I was hoping for some more realistic wildlife/animal beads in this release especially otter, badger and meercat. I loved the otter bead design someone submitted in the competition.

I had thought about getting the redbalifrog dragon lock but someone on another forum advised me she has had to return it as it is very difficult to fasten so still looking for another lock

that otter was incredible.

As for the new lock, while many are disappointed that Troll seems to have simply redesigned the current lock, at least this flower is recognizable as a flower.

lyric_girl wrote:As for the new lock, while many are disappointed that Troll seems to have simply redesigned the current lock, at least this flower is recognizable as a flower.

If they wanted a new flower lock they could have made a new tulip lock

It is sad that the most innovative design in these new beads is from the peoples competition. I see too many that are similar to beads from the past and current beads designs. I am saddened by this.

LoopyLou wrote:Old Gold/Silver flower lock



New gold/silver flower lock

(I hope they didn't burn too much midnight oil coming up with the idea for this one!)

I'm really pleased with the coral colour! And Purple Dillo and Lake Eye are beautiful. I shall have to wait to see the silvers irl.
I always find diversity in the TB releases. I never want them all, there are always a few that I dislike and a few that dont bother me as well as the ones I love. This is what makes everyone's bracelets so unique. I might've liked the maternal one if it hadnt have been 2 tone, but I'm just not into gold (for which my wallet thanks me!)

LoopyLou wrote:

Daisylove wrote:
I have never been good in puzzles, but I don't see any differences between the new and the old lock

What is the difference???

One extra petal

... is this an evolutionary upgrowth? And what will be the markup for one more golden petal??

I think it's not so bad to improve a lock. As long as the price stays the same!

Jay at last they do something with a pregnant mom! I'm so happy! I hope I will be pregnant soon. And I love the falling leaves and goldstones

Edit: so,I'll be broken..Too much beautiful beads And hi everybody,I'm new here

Welcome to BT, Fee! Go introduce yourself in the Community section so you can get a proper welcome, with emoticons and everything.

Welcome!

snowy wrote:

lyric_girl wrote:As for the new lock, while many are disappointed that Troll seems to have simply redesigned the current lock, at least this flower is recognizable as a flower.

If they wanted a new flower lock they could have made a new tulip lock

A new tulip lock would have been fabulous!
I can't wait to see the new purple glass bead. I am drooling over the purple dillo!

ME too...that dillo really got my attention...I love PURPLE anyway!

I agree, a tulip lock would have been great or a version of the chess lock would have been a wonderful addition I have the old silver/gold flower lock and I can't see myself buying a second lock that is so similar. I guess I will have to see it IRL.